Memory hole problem?

So I’m building this patch that will analyze a folder of percussion samples. It’s about 3000 files and a total of 1GB in size. Not a small folder by any means.

But when I set the process on the folder, I get to between 300-400 and I get this error message:

This is MacOS Mojave foolishness, but what strikes me is the 66GB of memory being used by Max…

I’ve run the process on smaller amounts of files and it all works well, and I’ve verified that nothing is appending onto buffers (as far as I can tell).

I’m loading into a single buffer (testing in this case), running a whole bunch of diff fluid.descriptors~ and fluid.bufstats~ on that, peek~-ing out what I need into a coll, then starting the whole process over again. So, theoretically there should only be a single buffer going at a time.

Granted, this is an extreme example, but just curious if perhaps some object is not cleaning up its mess along the way.

Here is the patch I used to create the problem (just set it going on a big/beefy folder of samples). It’s a bit messy still, but should be legible.


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Also, not sure if this helps, but when I forcequit out of this, I get an error report:
memory problem.zip (117.6 KB)

I’ve had this error in the past - no idea what caused it and assumed it was something else cooking up. I can try and find the screenshot I took of the crash log… but it was ages ago - possibly alpha1.

I’ve never run into this error before, so I presumed it was a Mojave thing. Also never seen Max use 66GB before either though, so it’s been an exciting evening today!

Thanks for this. Nothing in that patch looks like it should be especially memory hungry, so it does look like a leak. We know that noveltyslice is memory intensive with long files (in n^2 at the moment), but none of the objects should be hoarding between runs; evidently something is. How long is the longest file in the batch you’re analysing, out of interest?

@jamesbradbury , when you’ve had this, do you remember anything about the context?

Biggest file is around 3mb, so nothing big at all. Just oodles of them.

Sounds leaky. I’ll trace the cause when I have fewer unsaved things open :smile:

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@rodrigo.constanzo
Think I’ve found the cause. I shall submit my proposed fix to the Wise Ones. [It has the desired results, insofar as memory usage no longer climbs indefinitely when running this patch]

(Btw, there were some missing buffers~ in the patch you posted, not a massive problem, but it did slow me down a wee bit!)

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Nice!

Yeah, my bad. I copied that bit of patch out of the larger messier patch where I guess all the buffers were.

Any chance you could share the batch trainer?

Still needs to be tidied up a bit more, but here’s what I have.

It takes a folder of samples, then analyzes each for:

index
name
duration
time centroid
onsets

loudness (max)
loudness (mean of deriv)
loudness (std dev)

pitch (median)
confidence (mean)
pitch optimized

centroid (mean)
centroid (mean of deriv)
centroid (std dev)

flatness (mean)
flatness (mean of deriv)
flatness (std dev)

rolloff (max90)
rolloff (mean of deriv)
roloff (std dev)

spread (mean)
spread (mean of deriv)
spread (std dev)

And stuffs that all into a coll with each sample representing a row in the coll.

I’m not sure which of these descriptors will be useful in the end, and I may more more pre-aggregate metrics (ala the pitch refiner bit of code that @weefuzzy whipped up from the discussion in the stats thread).

For example, I’d like to make an aggregate of “shortness”, which takes the time centroid from irstats~ and weighs it against the mean of the derivative of loudness etc…


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I was able to reproduce the same error batch processing with bufnoveltyslice~.


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The input folder is 4GB, so I’ll try having the input/output buffers~ get destroyed and created for each analysis, rather than holding it all in polybuffers~.

Don’t worry, if we confirm a bug, we know it is reproducible :wink:

I should add, though, that junking the buffer~s isn’t a workaround for this. You need to junk the processor. If you have zsa descriptors look at one of the zsa_easy* abstractions to see how you can programatically replace a named object with a new instance.

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So it is best (right now) to dynamically delete and create the necessary fluid.buf~ object?

Just for now, yes, sorry. Strictly temporary.


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Nice abstraction, thank you!

Not sure if this complicates thing but I cannot get plug the memory leak with your scripting solution using fluid.bufloudness~. The memory climbs each time I use it until I am forced to close the application.

My patching:


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wait for Alpha08 then. It is sorted (we think)

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Just wanted to test the last version of your patch with Alpha08 and I’m getting the following errors:
newobj: bufspill: No such object
newobj: get.samps: No such object
newobj: onecount: No such object

Ah yes, sorry. Three abstractions/externals.

bufspill just outputs buffer data as lists prepended by the channel number.

get.samps is a patch that wraps getattr samps and a buffer~ as an argument

onecount is just a 0 - (n-1) counter that sends a bang when done.

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