Musical use of descriptors discussion

Real old bump here, but as I mentioned in the other thread, based on some chatting with @tremblap this week I revisited the “onset descriptors” patch idea and came up with something that works significantly better.

Where the previous version was going wrong was that I was detecting an onset very quickly, then waiting 15ms (in Max land), and then analyzing the last 20ms of audio using descriptors~, with lots of Max slop in the mix. So not only did I have to wait a fair amount of time, but I wasn’t sure that the section of audio I was analyzing was what correctly corresponded to when the onset was detected.

So at the moment the onset detection outputs a sample accurate moment in time which will then be analyzed by descriptors~. The output of that happens with Max slop but, critically, it is analyzing exactly the right slice of time.

At the moment I’m using FFT settings of 256 64 for descriptors~, and in keeping the overall analysis window a multiple of the FFT size (as per @a.harker’s suggestion a while back), I’m analyzing a 512 sample chunk of time, which equals 11.61ms, which is also the latency of the process now.

This this is a bit faster than the previous version (12ms vs 15ms) but it is significantly more accurate in its results.

Give it a spin, particularly with live sound input (mouth/voice sounds are great for testing). The red subpatch p streamView is really useful for seeing the values over time. You just have to make 50 onsets before the zl stream starts displaying on the multisliders.

Let me know what you think:


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