# Audio understanding of ml and dreams of the future
**URL:** https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517
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**Created:** [February 9, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517 "2025-02-09T23:00:27Z")
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### Author:  [@sleestack808](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/sleestack808)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/1 "2025-02-09T23:00:27Z")
Is there a place online to teach me from an audio perspective, at least, how this machine learning works
Also, I’m not a computer programmer. I have to learn so many different things to make music. It is not just programming ,you know, but I’m so curious about machine learning’s potential for audio , besides ripping people’s music off , is there a repository of people‘s wishes and dreams for what this could do for them in making music? I feel like I’m not seeing the big picture and plugging in a question in ChatGPT or whatever I feel won’t give me a decent answer
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### Author:  [@tedmoore](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/tedmoore)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/2 "2025-02-10T14:27:21Z")
There’s a lot of info, example code, example projects, podcasts, etc. on [learn.flucoma.org](http://learn.flucoma.org). Definitely a good place to start.
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### Author:  [@tremblap](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/tremblap)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/3 "2025-02-11T17:25:01Z")
> [@sleestack808](#):
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> I’m so curious about machine learning’s potential for audio , besides ripping people’s music off
Hello! There are A LOT of things said about this, but indeed, very little speculation that is fun and inspiring for real. I reckon [the conference I just posted](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/a-symposium-of-talks-that-should-be-of-interest/2518) has the 2nd half talking about this, from various perspectives, in non-technical ways.
I hope this helps? There is also [Bob Sturm’s Conference](https://boblsturm.github.io/aimusicstudies2024/) which he announced in his talk and that has a proceeding I have not read.
There is this I posted before ([Fascinating critical use of AI by artists](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/fascinating-critical-use-of-ai-by-artists/2122)) and this ([Music and AI - some thoughts from some practitionners](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/music-and-ai-some-thoughts-from-some-practitionners/2092)) - there is also all our [podcasts](https://learn.flucoma.org/podcast/)
I hope this helps!
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### Author:  [@sleestack808](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/sleestack808)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/4 "2025-02-11T21:55:56Z")
Sorry, I lost a family member this weekend. I don’t remember saying “ripping people‘s music off”. Must’ve been some kind of subliminal angst going on there.
Do you think this will make it into euro rack stuff ? you know like Modalys I kind of wonder sometimes if the max version is being used in the WMD Kraken.
Who knows
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### Author:  [@tremblap](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/tremblap)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2025, 8:03am UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/5 "2025-02-12T08:03:15Z")
Sorry to hear about your loss. Deepest condolences.
As for the much more pragmatic O.T. - some pedals and rack modules run a Raspberry Pi, and there is a thread of people compiling FluCoMa for that platform. So, potentially, stuff is happening there already. @rodrigo.constanzo had some embarqued stuff he tried, for instance, and as per his usual (incredibly) generous habit, he documented everything, from process to result.
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### Author:  [@sleestack808](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/sleestack808)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/6 "2025-02-16T01:38:30Z")
The thing that keeps my from getting invested in Flucoma. Is laptop music in general doesn’t age well. I find that gear, Drum machines. old samples. Have a character that transcends time. if Flucoma could make it into some hybrid analog digital drum box or Euro rack machine. Maybe it would age well.
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### Author:  [@tremblap](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/tremblap)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/7 "2025-02-16T08:16:59Z")
now I beg to differ - electronic music ages as badly as any. Each era has a flavour that is marked by the media (famous ‘media is the message’ trope all over) and for me the sound moves its location: cassettes, FM synth, distorted guitar amps, Zoom, all have a patina that mark its time… now what survives is exceptional, but that is normal.
In other words, there was A LOT of tunes using 808, and in itself that machine sounds like it does, and a few (ab)uses of it made it mythical. There is still A LOT of bad music made with electric guitars, and 808, and then we don’t even embark on the narrative of what is relevant at a given time.
To go back to your question: is FluCoMa the 808 of its generation? No, but the sound of content-aware manipulation (especially granulation) is definitely there - and we need to push forward and wider to see what is coming next, beyond/through/despite/with neural audio synthesis too. But that is speculative, and my 2c.
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### Author:  [@tedmoore](https://discourse.flucoma.org/u/tedmoore)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/audio-understanding-of-ml-and-dreams-of-the-future/2517/8 "2025-02-16T21:27:02Z")
> [@tremblap](#):
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> the sound of content-aware manipulation (especially granulation) is definitely there - and we need to push forward and wider to see what is coming next, beyond/through/despite/with neural audio synthesis too. But that is speculative, and my 2c.
wise.