# Example 11 - verbose

**URL:** https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/example-11-verbose/658
**Category:** Pre-Release Toolbox2 Usage
**Created:** [September 25, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/example-11-verbose/658 "2020-09-25T19:43:51Z")
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#### Post date: [October 4, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/example-11-verbose/658/27 "2020-10-04T17:09:34Z")

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> [@tremblap](#):
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> I think you are optimising too early. Get the patch to do music you want to hear, then think of optimising…

That’s sort of what I’m trying. I didn’t think that the column copying stuff was an expensive-ish part of the process. I was just going through the patch and trying to rebuild out the bits I want/need, and didn’t understand the descriptor decisions.

But for now, it’s that. Trying to get the onset descriptors sample player working with `fluid.dataset~`s.

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