Here’s an update that changes the LUT for the hsl representation, as that’s what’s most useful for kmeans cluster viewing (as per this thread).
4 clusters from kmeans (linear display):
4 clusters (previous hsl):
4 clusters (new hsl):
fluid.datasetplot~.maxpat.zip (38.8 KB)
I wish there was quanlification of the 
icon - this would get at least to 11
obviously I’m adding a feature though 
I love community coding.
You can see the ‘missing’ feature of a zoom. so far called range, to be able to decide the range of the presentation grid. I’ll medidate a bit further to decide if x and y should be different (more work) but so far they are the same and it works well - the coding I’m hacking is not as clean as @rodrigo.constanzo 's, as you can imagine
I’m fighting an ‘interesting unexpected feature’. Can you try this patch as is and tell me if you only get a red dot in the top left?
If yes and not unexpected, what am I missing in my patch to make a simple query work?
thanks
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ok I found the bug: the naming convention for the entries is numerical only. I’ll mod the patch to make it work with arbitrary entry label
ok a few bugs found and sorted, this is still work in progress but I added the range of the display and the radius of the nearest neighbourg requested
stuff I’ll add next is probably a gate on click (querying just when click) as an option but for now further testing welcome
Archive.zip (42.6 KB)
Good additions!
I did think about the int vs symbol thing but I viewed that aspect of it as just kind of a built in bonus, so didn’t bother changing it.
And the range is good as well. I changed the patcherargs section to this:
That way the range updates dynamically too (much easier than guessing what you want to scale it to and rebanging manually).
what is your view on the clicking, and on the number of neighbours? The latter I could think of something like what @weefuzzy has implemented in the helpfile colouring but that is more hard work…
Clicking is a great idea actually. Or having a flag for @onclick or something, so if you just want to wiggle around (without clicking) you can do that too.
The radius thing is cool, though unless it starts spitting out more than a single match, it would always just match on itself, and therefore not matter for most cases? I could be missing what the purpose of that is.
I know what @radius is good for in a general sense, but here the (internal) dataset and display are coupled, so not sure what it’s for here.
the way I set it up now, it has @numneighbourg to 1 and with radius 0 will give you whatever is the nearest, whatever the distance. I find that mode much more intuitive but wanted to support yours too.
Ah right. Yeah that’s what I was aiming for, I just did it via @radius instead, as it was on my mind at the time. But the original idea there was for it to tell you what single point you’re hovering over.
A more useful, though larger, change would be to have more values being returned as a list, but that starts to become a bit more a standalone patch or example.
A change like being able to have symbolic labels would also make for a handy pre-processing abstraction where you can start with a larger dataset and then visualize up to 3 arbitrary dimension from it, ala @tedmoore’s plotter.
It seems like it’s broken for non-symbol labels now. I’ve not traced through completely to see what you’ve changed, but I noticed my previous .maxhelp wasn’t working anymore (loads of Point not found error messages), then going back to the version you posted here to figure out that if you change the sprintf to have %ld it throws the same error. So something along the way doesn’t like having ints as labels.
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Ok, it looks like it needs t b l everywhere, instead of t b s, as l passes on symbols, ints, floats, whatever, whereas s converts items.
ok I’ve changed it so it works with labels that are numbers or strings, and added the convenient speedlim autobang too. Next, new features.
I cannot find the “helpfile” you had made, which post is it on?
Cool, that’s what I have. Did you just use t b l or something else?
The helpfile is in the first couple of posts, but I think this is the (not fully tidy) version I have at the moment:
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Here we go, an upgraded version that has a click-to-query argument (instead of all hovering which you can put back if you want) and also has the numneighbours argument passed on. I hope you enjoy.
Archive.zip (42.9 KB)
Ok, here’s an updated version which rescales the points based on the range, so it looks more like you’re zooming in and out.
I also tidied around a bit, and added an button for saving the date based on the last edit, so we can keep track of versions of this.
fluid.datasetplot~.zip (45.7 KB)
I’ve modified it further to cap how small these can become since if you look at large numbers you get in trouble (and added time for the versioning (with a savebang at first but this was not doing it before the save so useless))
I’ve also rounded instead of truncating the int conversion to the drawing.
I think the click should be called idle so I changed it - it is to decide if it outputs on idle after all…
all changes up for grabs or discussion, as always
fluid.datasetplot.zip (46.7 KB)
Nice. Good additions. The dots did start getting pretty small if you pushed the scale far, but I figured that was on the user. But capping it is nice.
Hehe, I like the addition of time to the versioning. Gotta new if you’ve got the 12/3 morning or 12/3 afternoon build!
I was going to add the option of changing the background color, as per someone’s comment on twitter, but then I remembered I did “white on white” as I couldn’t figure out the appropriate jit.op that will allow me to overlay the dots and the circle without the respective background colors interfering. At present I’m using jit.op @op * as multiplying the little dots and circle by white left them as is, but there’s probably a better @op for that (or a better way in general).
Would may be interesting to build is some abstractions/wrappers that go around this that allow for more complex things (though too complex, probably, for being native). Like @tutschku’s desire/suggestion of being able to select points (via clicking or lasso) and deleting them from a dataset. Or perhaps selecting points from multiple plots and dump-ing the into a third dataset (creating merged dataset, but visually/sonically).